We begin this REWIND episode a little differently, with a call to Jonathan Siegrist while he was recently in Catalunya, Spain, to find out if he knew why we're releasing this on May 18th. It's an interesting fact about his own climbing that he wasn't aware of. Until now.

Since this episode first aired, Jonathan has climbed 5 routes at 5.15b (9b), with his most recent send of “Stoking the Fire” being the first to break his unintentional May hotstreak.

Jonathan’s 5.15b Ticklist:

• “Jumbo Love”, sent May 17, 2018

• “La Planta de Shiva”, sent May 4, 2019

• “Peruvian Necktie”, sent May 18, 2021

• “Event Horizon”, sent May 18, 2022

• “Stoking the Fire”, sent April 16, 2023

So now, almost 5 years exactly after he ticked his first of that grade, we REWIND to this classic conversation with Jonathan about when and why to change things up in your training, and one thing that training should definitely include a whole lot of: climbing.

To find a full transcript for this episode, which originally aired on March 2, 2017, click HERE.