In this Board Meeting episode, Nate and I have a late night discussion about the Top 3 Ways We've Invested in Ourselves.  That could be monetarily, emotionally, with time.... however, as long as it's an investment into bettering ourselves.  A few surprising answers here!

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Kris Hampton  00:31

What's up everybody? I'm your host, Kris Hampton.

Nate Drolet  00:35

And I'm Nathan Drolet.

Kris Hampton  00:36

And together we form George Foreman. Yeah, I was gonna say Joe Frazier. But George Foreman just sounds better after we form George Foreman,

Nate Drolet  00:48

Is it because right behind me is a grill and you're looking at a grill when you said that? 

Kris Hampton  00:52

Maybe, maybe maybe George has entered my psyche to that level. Anytime I see a grill, even though it's a vintage Weber. I think of George Foreman. So we're sitting here tonight in Cincinnati, Ohio, wrapping up our workshop tour, and my daughter is on a date inside the house. So we're sitting out here at the picnic table, recording, a podcast. 

Nate Drolet  01:25

Getting eaten alive by mosquitoes.

Kris Hampton  01:27

Getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. However, she just brought us ice cream. So it's all cool, which works out and we're multiple beers deep. So this could become a little belligerent. But Nate came up with a serious topic. Good topic. And the topic for today is the top three ways we've invested in ourselves. And that can be monetarily, it can be emotionally, it can be

Nate Drolet  01:59

With time 

Kris Hampton  02:00

With time. However you've invested. That's that's the question here. So I started off the last one.

Nate Drolet  02:13

 All right. 

Kris Hampton  02:14

So it's your turn.

Nate Drolet  02:15

Going. All right. I'm gonna go ahead and throw up a bit of a softball answer here. But this was something that to me initially, it seemed like a no brainer, but it paid off massively. And that was taking up an internship at a strength and conditioning facility. 

Kris Hampton  02:34

With Paul.

Nate Drolet  02:35

Yes. I was working a ton at the time, washing windows... Totally not a softball answer. Well, I guess, to me at the time, it made a bunch of sense. So I talked on the last podcast about how I was listening to a bunch of podcasts. And every strength coach, you know, when they were asked, hey, if you could recommend anything to someone who is new to this game, what would it be? And they all said, hire a coach, like, have someone else run you through that learning curve? So you don't have to? I mean, it's something I think about with climbing man, if I knew what I know, now with climbing. Yeah. It would be so easy to get to where I am now except for not in not with like, whole string of injuries that I had along the way and all these different things. So the idea of hiring coach, I was like, that's perfect. So I wanted to understand lifting. So I ended up running into Paul at TBA one day. And I knew he was a strength coach, but didn't know a ton about it. So we talked back and forth, I was like, cool. And so we started working together. And then he offered me an internship position.

Kris Hampton  03:47

This was right around the same time that Paul and I were starting on the Kettlebells, for Climbers thing, right? 

Nate Drolet  03:53

I think it was a little more...

Kris Hampton  03:54

Somewhere right around there.

Nate Drolet  03:55

...close to. A little prior to that, I believe. Yeah, he offered me the position. I was working a lot doing what I was doing already. But I mean, to me, it was an opportunity to keep learning. I was like, oh, of course, like this is something I was really passionate about. And so it made sense. But I didn't realize just how much of a door that would open and how much that would lead me down the road. So I'd say even though it felt like an obvious investment at the time, it's been one of the biggest payoffs for me.

Kris Hampton  04:26

Yeah, i think sometimes those things aren't super obvious. You know, like, it seemed like a good thing for you to be doing to, you know, further your training ideas, but ultimately, it's led to this. You know, there's a possibility that now this is your, you know, eventually this could be your career. 

Nate Drolet  04:51

Yeah. 

Kris Hampton  04:52

And I think that's, that's pretty cool that you just sort of stumbled upon that just by following what you thought you wanted to do. I think that's pretty cool. And you can't, you can't really ask for a better dude to hook up with.

Nate Drolet  05:06

Oh, no, not at all. Like, I was super fortunate that it all kind of fell into place.

Kris Hampton  05:13

Alright. So my first way that I've invested in myself, in my top three is I made climbing and training a priority. And this is a big pet peeve of mine now. I don't know that it was a that it was a conscious effort when I first did it. So I let it slack off, and I eventually quit climbing. Or when I when I was first climbing, I climbed a ton all the time, I loved it. And then I eventually quit. So I don't think it was a conscious effort that it was a priority for me. But ultimately, I came back to climbing because a man that I really admired John Bronaugh, who was the original author for the Red River guide books, and you know, he was kind of an old school Red River guy that I looked up to. He made a comment on a public forum that, you know, Kris is not an overachiever, he's an underachiever. And he does just enough to get noticed. And then he bails. And I read that, and it stung. 

Nate Drolet  06:31

I Imagine. 

Kris Hampton  06:32

Because it was true, and, and I had done that in so many different pursuits, I'd done it in, you know, in breakdancing, I'd done it in rapping, i'd done it in skateboarding. I've done it in so many things where I just enough for people to take notice. And then I would move on to something else. So when John passed away, I decided the way I needed to honor him and to respect myself was to give whatever I could give to climbing and and becoming better at climbing. So what I did is I made it a priority, you know, I said, instead of maybe I'll go climbing Tuesdays and Thursdays and then on the weekends, if nothing else better comes up. Instead, I said I'm going climbing Tuesday nights, Thursday nights, these days on the weekends, regardless of what else comes up. And and I lost girlfriends because of that. You know, I distinctly remember dating a girl who called me and said, you know, do you want to hang out tonight? And I was like, no, it's Tuesday. And she was like, well, you can skip one night. And I was just like, click. Sorry.

Nate Drolet  08:05

Not for anaerobic capacity, I can't.

Kris Hampton  08:10

But I had expressed to her that these were my goals. These are my dreams, this is what I really wanted to do. And she didn't respect those at all. And the woman I'm with now Annalissa, I was very upfront with her in the beginning, like I have, I have these goals. These are the days I go to the gym, these are the days I'm with my daughter. Those days are not negotiable. If you're moving to Cincinnati, I will spend as much time with you as I can, but those times are not negotiable. And she respected that. And because of that, you know, I've softened my stance a little bit, and she started climbing so so it definitely worked out that I stuck to my guns there. And really made a priority out of climbing and progressing my climbing. And, you know, I just don't think that's the natural go to for people. I hear people all the time say, Oh, I was gonna go but I don't have time tonight. And I'm like, whatever it was that came up. That's the thing you shouldn't have time for. It just came up last minute. So unless it's an emergency, unless it's your child or your parents or, you know, something that you care massively about. If it's just, you know, my friends are going bowling, then. Yeah, maybe you should stick to what you what you set out to do. So that's it for me.

Nate Drolet  09:41

All right. So my number two is and this is where I started. Going a little bit away from a training was actually a two part answer. 

Kris Hampton  09:52

Wait. You're going away from training. 

Nate Drolet  09:54

Yeah, that's right.

Kris Hampton  09:55

Is there something else other than training?

Nate Drolet  09:58

Did you not just hear me? I said pick your priorities. Oh, and by the way, let me pick your priorities for you. Their training,

Kris Hampton  10:04

Training. Training is your top priority. And second priority is training.

Nate Drolet  10:09

 Yes. Um, So it was actually buying a Kindle, and then later getting putting myself through a speed reading course. And this sounds ridiculous to most people.

Kris Hampton  10:22

I'm not even sure what to say about that. 

Nate Drolet  10:24

Yeah, exactly. So, I was horrified of reading for the longest time, I had a terrible vocabulary. Through all of school, middle school, high school college, was always in like higher level classes. Except for English. I was in the most remedial English possible. Like I didn't have to read books in high school.

Kris Hampton  10:44

 That's because you were from Texas.

Nate Drolet  10:46

 No, we had...

Kris Hampton  10:48

Totally kidding. No shade thrown at Texas. 

Nate Drolet  10:51

Yeah, we just read the Texas constitution all the time. Nothing wrong with that. And uh, All the Pretty Horses.

Kris Hampton  11:00

Now you're throwing shade at Texas.

Nate Drolet  11:02

I love All the Pretty Horses. My favorite Cormac McCarthy book. Um, back to where we were. So after I graduated college, I had probably only read maybe three books outside of what was required for school at that time on my own. Like I hated reading.

Kris Hampton  11:21

 They were all written by Dr. Seuss. 

Nate Drolet  11:23

Yeah. What was it? We talked about the other day, cat and hat, how there's only 50 individual words and Cat in the Hat. Yeah, that's pretty impressive. It's impressive. So I only had to know 50 words.

Kris Hampton  11:37

Sorry, I keep derailing you. I'm going to let you talk now.

Nate Drolet  11:39

Okay. So I probably only read maybe three or four books on my own. before graduating college, I hated reading a super slow, terrible vocabulary and the fuck if I was gonna use a dictionary to figure out what words, what words meant. And right after college, I ended up getting a Kindle, which you can just press down on the word and it gives you the definition.

Kris Hampton  12:06

You just showed me that that's cool.

Nate Drolet  12:07

 It's amazing. Yeah. And so immediately, my vocabulary just exploded. And suddenly, I like reading a lot. But I was a really slow reader. So I bought a book on speed reading. And immediately, I don't know quadrupled my speed of being able to read and comprehension. So now I can actually remember things from books, much better than ever before. Um, so since then, I've mean, I've gone through over 100 plus books, which I mean, for some people, that's not many. But for me, it's been awesome. Like, I actually enjoy reading, I've learned so much more. And it's funny, because I mean, both combine, you know, Kindles, maybe maybe 80 bucks, like the book for the speed reading was maybe like $13 and six weeks of 30 minutes a day. And since then, like I've learned a monstrous amount. And it's something that, to me, that was a force multiplier, like, I will always keep, I will continue to reap the benefits of that forever. Like, I will always be able to read faster always have a larger vocabulary. I will keep learning forever. Because like, as long as I'm alive, like, that's awesome. So to me, that was that's been one of the most beneficial things for me.

Kris Hampton  13:21

Cool, do you? When do you apply the speed reading? Like, do you read everything in that? quadrupled speed?

Nate Drolet  13:29

Pretty much you'll . It's it's interesting to think about this with speed climbing, because so for instance, the way you learn how to type fast

Kris Hampton  13:39

Yeah, see, it's funny, I, I thought about it as far as eating,

Nate Drolet  13:43

Like speed eating.

Kris Hampton  13:44

I like to eat really fast.

Nate Drolet  13:46

 I'm really good at that, too.

Kris Hampton  13:48

But there are times when I really like to enjoy what I'm eating. I like the ice cream we just ate. Even though I ate it really fast. I enjoyed the hell out of it. So I'm just curious, do you do you ever read at a normal pace anymore?

Nate Drolet  14:01

Well, that's just so here's the thing..

Kris Hampton  14:03

Or is that your normal pace?

Nate Drolet  14:05

It's become my normal pace, because you practice at a much faster pace. So for instance, I'll practice when I was practicing, I would practice it, let's say 12, reading 1200 words a minute, which is beyond what I could read. So when I pulled it back to let's say, 500 words per minute, it felt like I was reading on the beach and the most casual thing possible.

Kris Hampton  14:26

Right. 

Nate Drolet  14:26

So it's pretty cool. There's a lot of different tips for comprehension and things like that, to help you be able to tie things together. And for me, it was awesome. Like it's so much more enjoyable. And I've Yeah, I mean, I can't say enough like I hated books. So much and now it's it's crazy that I went so long without them.

Kris Hampton  14:50

Hmm, that's pretty cool. I really, I used to really love reading and maybe I should look into your speed reading ideas because I just feel like I don't have time anymore to read. So, yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah. All right. Number two, numero dos. For me it is. And I'm sticking with the climbing and training theme here. 

Nate Drolet  15:18

Good for you. I'm not.

Kris Hampton  15:21

You sort of are because you've you read a lot of books that apply to climbing and training. I decided that rest and recovery is training.

Nate Drolet  15:34

Oh, that's a good one. I should have thought of that.

Kris Hampton  15:36

I know you should have but you didn't. And yeah, I just, you know, it never occurred to me a long time ago. And, and it took a lot of effort really, to convince myself that resting and, and doing any type of recovery activity, you know, be it self myofascial release, or getting a massage or, you know, light recovery climbing or, or whatever it might be, maybe some jogging or eating ice cream is part of training. And, and I think that was huge, you know, a big light bulb went off. And my since then my, my climbing and my training and my life in general has been drastically improved. You know.

Nate Drolet  16:33

Yeah, I definitely fully second that. When I started prioritizing, sleeping, and amazingly hydration. For me, that's...

Kris Hampton  16:43

Hydration has been big. Yeah.

Nate Drolet  16:44

 Such a huge factor... 

Kris Hampton  16:47

Sleeping I can't comment on. 

Nate Drolet  16:48

Yeah, I can sleep like a champ. 

Kris Hampton  16:51

Yeah, I sleep like a loser.

Nate Drolet  16:53

 Yeah.

Kris Hampton  16:54

Completely like. But it's something I know, I need to get better at, because it's part of rest and recovery. And it's part of performance. You know, it's part of being the best me that I can be. And definitely on this workshop tour, I've been horrible about it. While I was in lander, I was actually pretty good. But I need the influence of Annalissa my fiance, because she loves to sleep, she can go to bed really early and, and then not wake up until really late. So she's really good at it. I suck horribly at it. You know, I don't go to bed. You know. So around here. Last night, for instance, we we all kind of exited the kitchen, from making tacos and eating ice cream and drinking, we did a lot of ice cream and drink around here don't we?

Nate Drolet  17:44

A lot of burritos. 

Kris Hampton  17:48

With Mexicans and ice cream, then beer, or Mexican  and beer and ice cream.

Nate Drolet  17:51

It has been a great clinic tour.

Kris Hampton  17:55

But anyway, we all exited, like 12:30 or 1 and I probably didn't go to sleep until 3:30 or 4. Because I worked on music for a little while. And I wrote for a little while. And you know, I just couldn't. There was no reason for me to go sleep because I still had energy. That's how I feel. And that's tough for me. So, so I'm trying to get better at that and not being with my fiance right now that definitely makes it harder, because I tend to stay up a lot later without her. So yeah, but that's part of my, you know, rest and recovery that I've recognized. I'm just not doing a very good job right now of keeping that in check.

Nate Drolet  18:39

Yeah, I think it's important. I've definitely seen massive benefits when I'm consistent with sleep hydration, you know, and just all the things you always hear about but and when you're consistent with them, it goes such a long ways. Just Yeah. actually surprised I didn't have that on my list now.

Kris Hampton  18:57

And it's not a magic bullet. You know, I think that's the tough thing. I think that's why probably wouldn't show up on most people's lists. It's not, it's not like an obvious payoff. You really have to look at what's going on and say, Oh, shit, I'm performing better. How did that happen?

Nate Drolet  19:16

Yeah. And it's not like, Oh, I got one out or an extra hour of sleep for two days. Suddenly I'm...  RightRi. ght. Right. Right.  ...crushing it.

Kris Hampton  19:25

Yeah, it's got to be a long term.

Nate Drolet  19:27

Yeah, it's like I've spent the last two months getting an extra hour of sleep and drinking an extra liter of water a day. Now I feel much better. You know, that's a lot to put into it.

Kris Hampton  19:37

Yeah. And it goes in levels, you know, for me. For me, I burned the candle at both ends. In an extreme fashion, you know, for more than a decade, I probably slept no more than three to four hours per night. And, and I couldn't keep that up. And especially when I started training. That wasn't gonna work. I tried to make it work for quite a while and it, you know, it seemed okay for a little while. But with my horrible diet I had at the time with my horrible sleep habits I had at the time something had to give, or I wasn't going to get any stronger or any better or progress by climbing, you know. So I've made small inroads to all of those things, and I've got a long way to go. But I'm making progress.

Nate Drolet  20:29

That's awesome.

Kris Hampton  20:31

I think we're probably ready for a break. I need I need another beer refresher here. 

Nate Drolet  20:33

All right, All right. 

Kris Hampton  20:38

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Nate Drolet  21:53

Yeah. All right. So my number three and this one's sort of vague. But for me, it's been really important. And it's been being honest about my own motivations. And just what keeps me site has been one of my biggest investments. That's yeah, man. Cuz there's I don't know, there's some some days I'm just not psyched. And there's some days like, I don't know, different things keep me motivated. I think this is true for everyone. There was so long that I tried to just stick with you know i'd things that I think other people wanted to hear.

Kris Hampton  22:31

Yeah, I was gonna say is it outside pressure that causes you to not be honest about it?

Nate Drolet  22:36

Yeah. I mean, this is this goes way beyond climbing as well. This is just life in general. Like, it's, I don't know, it's easy to just kind of stick to the norms, and you know what you're feeling but it's kind of weird to voice your own opinion. But, uh, yeah, I'd say in the last few years, I've started to realize more and more what I wanted or what I actually felt what's been awesome is when the more open I am about these things, where I'm just like, you know, this is like, I don't care if people think I'm ridiculous for like, geeking out...

Kris Hampton  23:12

Being open to yourself.

Nate Drolet  23:13

Yes. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like, I don't know, it's been fun. Like, the more open I am about things like, the more receptive some people are, like, I've got a buddy who me and him just talk like, he's big on climbing, but he's also psyched on Olympic lifting, and food. And we just geek out on such a nerd level of food. And it's awesome. Like, it's one of those things where I, you know, I would never really talk with people about like, cooking and food prep and stuff like that. But man, it's, it's so fun to be able to like talk on this level with someone else who's so passionate about it and not afraid of like, I don't know, seeming ridiculous or anything like that for so long. Yeah, I think the easiest way to say it is I feel like I would only say things that I thought other people wanted to hear.

Kris Hampton  24:02

Oh, yeah, I you know, I think that's a pretty common error. And how old are you right now? 

Nate Drolet  24:08

27

Kris Hampton  24:10

27. Yeah, so you're still you're still super young that so...

Nate Drolet  24:14

So many more mistakes ahead of me?

Kris Hampton  24:16

No, no question. You know, it's funny when I was your you're way, way, way, way, way, aeons light years ahead of where I was when I was 27. Which is which is super cool to see. But definitely when I was 27, I was driven by this strange motivation that was connected to my ego and what you know what everybody else wanted. And it was definitely destructive. Really destructive. But yeah, I think being able to let go of That is a really mature thing and being able to realize that what you're psyched on is okay? Like, just because the next person isn't psyched on that really doesn't mean anything. You know, who cares what they're psyched on? I think that's the that's the thing we all need to figure out is what? what it is that motivates us what it is that we're excited to do, and truly passionate about, trying or working on or getting better at, or putting our time and effort and energy into. And if we don't find those things, you know, that's, that's a little sad, honestly. So I think it's pretty cool that you're 27 years old and already figuring out that maybe your motivations aren't pure all the time. Because I bet you ask most 27 year olds and they think their motivations are 100% their own? No, I don't think that's the case.

Nate Drolet  26:03

Well, don't worry, I'm so fucking up plenty.

Kris Hampton  26:05

Well, yeah, I know that.

Nate Drolet  26:08

Spent the last month with ya. I know plenty

Kris Hampton  26:11

But we all are, you know, and I think that's, that's the important thing is that we know we're fucking up and, and we know each other are fucking up. And, you know, the fact that you know, you're not 100% right all the time, makes it easier for other people around you to not be 100% right all the time. I think that's pretty cool.

Nate Drolet  26:33

All right, back to training. Man stuff.

Kris Hampton  26:36

Mine isn't necessarily training. It kind of is, though. So. So what I wrote here is, I gave credence to far fetched dreams, and I took the leap into this as a business. 

Nate Drolet  26:54

It's a good one.

Kris Hampton  26:55

And, and it sounds, it sounds fairly obvious, I think, for you know, for the kids of this generation, but I'm 41 years old, and I've been saying for a while now that it took me 40 years to get to my 20s. And that's how it feels. Because when I was a kid, this was not an option. Like, making a business or making a living out of something that didn't really exist, just wasn't an option. You didn't do that. Not in this neighborhood, not where I grew up, you worked in a factory, or whatever you had to do to support your family and to support your life. And, and that was it, you know, that was your whole existence was support your family. And, and I'm lucky to have a fiance who's amazing and believes in me and a daughter who is stoked to see me, you know, stretch my boundaries. And and I think that's, that's pretty key to being able to do this. And I recognized that I was in a good situation, you know, I had, I had injured my shoulder at work. So workers comp was paying me to sit on the couch and have surgery and go through PT. And I had a great physical therapist who understood that I was a climber. Shout out Tammy and and so I had the time to sit and really build the idea of making this a business and, and more than a business, making it a community and creating this, you know, this tribe of people who believed in the same ideas that I did, and it was a chance conversation with you, at Miguel's one morning.

Nate Drolet  28:55

There were free pancakes. If I remember correctly,

Kris Hampton  28:57

There were free pancakes. You're exactly right. And, and then a month or so later, you said hey, I'd like to, you know, maybe take you up on that offer. And and it all started from there. And I think it's become a really cool thing already. And it's been it's been a year, you know, has it hasn't even been a year since I talked to you. It's been just over a year since I officially launched this thing as a business. You know, at the point where we're talking right now, which mean hell, I've got 20 episodes recorded at this point. So you guys might get this when it's been two years but, but you get the gist. 

Nate Drolet  29:38

We're gonna spread these out.

Kris Hampton  29:42

So it's been just a you know, I felt like I was going out on a limb. It was scary. Like my my fiance was in school, trying to get her degree and she's gonna go back to graduate school for math. So we're, we're by no means comfortably supported. So it was scary. And we're moving across the country and my daughter was turning 18 and considering college and what she was going to do, and so scary times, but I stuck with my gut feeling that the mural painting that I was doing just wasn't satisfying. And it wasn't. It wasn't following my passion. And, and once I followed it, everything just feels a lot better. You know, and that it really feels like an investment. And, and in, in a lot of ways. So, you know, I spent a lot of money investing in it, I, I spent a ton of money on equipment, and, you know, software and products and, you know, t shirts and everything, you know, whatever, all these crazy things you need to make this operate of, I've spent a lot of money on those things. And I've spent an inordinate amount of time with figuring out how to do it all because I have a serious problem with control. And I have to know, I want to be the person who has the artistic vision behind the website and behind the social media behind all the logos and the images that you see. And, and I'm not against someone else doing it, but I just can't hand it over. It's fucking hard for me. So I've invested a lot of money, a lot of time, a lot of energy. And so far, it's paying off because you're here and I'm super stoked for that. And all the people listening are here. And I'm ridiculously excited about that. So yeah, I think that's a big investment that's really paying off and I feel good about.

Nate Drolet  31:58

It's awesome. So to steal a question from Tim Ferriss top investment for under $100.

Kris Hampton  32:08

Top investment for under $100. Mm hmm. Gosh, I don't even know what I've spent on things. So. Um, do you have one off the top of your head?

Nate Drolet  32:25

Rice Cooker.

Kris Hampton  32:26

Your rice cooker?

Nate Drolet  32:27

 Yeah.

Kris Hampton  32:29

That's a 27 year old answer.

Nate Drolet  32:33

It's one of those things. I've got a couple things like that rice cooker definitely is top of my list.

Kris Hampton  32:38

I've been thinking about buying a rice cooker. So

Nate Drolet  32:40

It's one of the things like it's I had the same feeling about an electric tea kettle, because people for the longest time were like, dude, just get a rice cooker. Like it'll change your life. Am I really it's a rice cooker. Like, come on. How much? How great. Could this be? Then I got one. I was like, Okay, ya'll are right. And I'm hearing the same thing about an electric tea kettle. I love tea. And so I'm considering that one as well. 

Kris Hampton  33:01

But i'm not buying it with the tea kettle, but not yet. Anyway, I haven't been sold on the rice cooker yet. I'm really close. 

Nate Drolet  33:10

You got the steamer basket in the top for all your veggies. 

Kris Hampton  33:13

Yeah, I'm really close. And I got closer because I hooked up with scratch labs. And you know, they're really into the rice cooker idea. And, and if you've ever read their, you know, their books, their portables books, or you know, any of the stuff they put out, they're really into the rice cooker. So I may end up going that direction, especially if I can find a small portable rice cooker that can travel on the road with me since I'm on the road for the next six months. Or probably the next four months when you guys hear this or three or two or something.

Nate Drolet  33:46

 Sure. Now that we've bought enough time,

Kris Hampton  33:51

Under $100, I was talking the whole damn time I didn't buy anything. Best investment for under $100. I would say damn, this is a hard one. I spent so much money on random things that have turned out good. Um, honestly, I would say probably, this is gonna this is totally a business thing. But I would say Facebook ads.

Nate Drolet  34:28

 Really? 

Kris Hampton  34:28

Yeah, I have. I tried it out. I wasn't convinced. But I think if you have content, that's good. And I think this podcast is good content. And I promote it right. I think those ads come back in the form of people following and people wanting to hear the next podcast and going back and listening to the old podcasts and and I think that's been super,super important. And I, and I never spend more than $50 on an ad campaign. And I don't know why just seems like a round good number. So I'll spend 50 bucks to promote a podcast, and it'll reach, you know, 14 or 15,000 people. And, you know, 2,000 of those people might download the podcast. But that's, that's definitely several hundred more people than listen to it before. So I think that's been a really good investment in getting my,  you know, and our message out there, and just the whole idea that that we're doing something different here. All right. And I don't know if you guys have heard this podcast before, but you may know at this point that we don't tweet. We scream like eagles.